Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdchema.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!sdchema!donn From: donn@sdchema.UUCP (Donn Seeley) Newsgroups: net.usenix Subject: Re: Uniforum Message-ID: <994@sdchema.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Dec-83 08:05:40 EST Article-I.D.: sdchema.994 Posted: Fri Dec 16 08:05:40 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Dec-83 00:25:44 EST Organization: UC San Diego Chemistry Dept. NIH Research Resource Lines: 28 I think it's a mistake to get put out of shape before the conference starts. Let's just do our best to make sure that the respective leaderships of /vendor/group and Usenix know what the rank and file expects to find. If things don't look right when we get there, well, there are plenty of board members to lean on and we can always do some impromptu organization of our own. It doesn't have to be the '68 Democratic Convention but there are many of us and few of them... If all else fails I plan to wear my '83 conference Official Staff T-shirt. If Usenix and /usr/group really do end up filing for divorce, then I think it will be a loss, although not that big of a loss. As Mike O'Dell has said, it is useful to peruse the vendor exhibits at these conferences -- at the very least these give you some colorful lapel buttons to wear on the plane back home... And it is only fair to let the vendors make a good pitch, by giving them their marketing talks. But I agree with Lauren that there is no need to let matters get out of hand. I think Usenix members in general feel that technical conferences are more interesting and more profitable, and I for one would support a return to a more technical format. I remember some gripes a year ago about how hard it was for the vendors to do two Unix exhibitions a year -- why don't we schedule two conferences a year, but make only one of them a joint conference? I just KNOW my plane will get nailed by ground-to-air missiles from the White House, Donn Seeley UCSD Chemistry Dept. RRCF ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdchema!donn