Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site azure.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!tektronix!tekgds!teklds!azure!roberta From: roberta@azure.UUCP (Roberta Taussig) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Rape Message-ID: <2402@azure.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Dec-83 16:13:14 EST Article-I.D.: azure.2402 Posted: Tue Dec 6 16:13:14 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Dec-83 03:47:22 EST Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 30 Laura Creighton said she would want to see "... some bruises or the marks where the ropes were" before she would allow a woman to bring charges of rape. That is so remarkably uncompassionate and unimaginative that it surprises me she said it. How much of a mark does a knife an eighth of an inch from the jugular or a pistol three feet from the head leave? I, too, am a short woman. How about the marks left by a 6 foot tall, 200 lb. man backing me into a dark alley and convincing me I face rape either with or without additional damage, and he doesn't much care which? Do you suppose the woman gang-raped on the pool table in New Bedford to the cheers of the onlookers had any visible bruises? I tend to agree with her that rape should be assault, but its nature may require it to be treated separately since its essence is the consent or lack thereof of the recipient. No matter how you cut it, somebody can be victimized. The law is supposed to protect the weak from the strong. Women, as she noted, tend to be weaker than men. We are, moreover, so constructed that we can not prevent intercourse if a sufficiently strong, agile male decides to inflict it. I think, therefore, that a woman should get the benefit of the doubt under the law. Note that I am not advocating she be believed without reservation, just that her testimony be considered valid evidence even in the absence of visible damage or corroborating witnesses. Roberta Taussig Tektronix Beaverton, Oregon ...!ucbvax!tektronix!tekmdp!roberta ...!decvax!tektronix!tekmdp!roberta