Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dartvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!dartvax!dnc From: dnc@dartvax.UUCP (David Crespo) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: girls - (nf) Message-ID: <487@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Dec-83 10:57:34 EST Article-I.D.: dartvax.487 Posted: Wed Dec 7 10:57:34 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Dec-83 04:02:27 EST References: <2605@hp-pcd.UUCP>, <711@ihuxi.UUCP> Organization: Dartmouth College Lines: 52 m I always find that it is difficult to refer to women as a group as girls, though I can't refer to myself as a man without shuddering. So I7m a boy, and you're women. But, some ladies over 18 are hardly women. To me there is a definite connotation in hte term as being a good match for a "man", i.e. holding an equal share of powers (psychic and political). I think usage varies much more widely, some women are turned off by the word woma/en since it seems to herald to eve and second-class(third, fourth, fifth, sixth, behind the journalists.) citizenry. THey "solved" this problem by inventing "wimmin, woemen, wome, wowmen, ladies," and i'm sure a host of others (a house without a wome, is a day without funshine) (huhn?) .... gals lasses, lassies (not to be collared) misses, ms-es, missies, mams and mamsies chicks, girlchicks, hens, sugarlips (oops, I'm sorry honey) skirt (let's evade the issue) then there's name calling (eve delilah you're such a thatcher) damsels, dames, damns gals galls girls gulls fems, (i like the derivative, fembot, for a mindless Marylin, and other things. ) for the males: guy chap joe (dear dear) boychick (definetely a jewish term) mister(missed her) fella, feller,fellow buddy my man, my right hand man, my left hand man, my man (sigh...) bloke hims (hymns) please submit others, I'm very interested in this ... and also the subject of maledicta, abusive slang ...what they cant stand about each other... senhor, senhorita hombre, homo (with caution) (about themselves) happy valentines day. dnc @ dc