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From: kmw@iheds.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: woman's opinion on girls/womaN
Message-ID: <307@iheds.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 9-Dec-83 16:04:05 EST
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Posted: Fri Dec  9 16:04:05 1983
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In response to:
 
	I am female and I don't particularly care if I'm referred to a
	woman or girl or lady.  
	
	Amongst the women I know, ironically, it seems that the ones
	who are screaming the loudest about such issues as "woman vs.
	girl"  "he/she"    "chairperson/chairman"  etc. are the very
	same ones who won't change a lite bulb, would have no idea
	how to change a flat tire (and aren't interested in learning),
	and seem to play the helpless female and yell "women's lib"
	at the same time.   
	 I'm not saying this is true of all females who speak out
	 about women's issues, but it does seem true the the females
	 I know.  I prefer to speak by my example to others, not
	 just words.
	
	
I'm glad you are not saying this is true of all women.  In my experience
it is just the opposite.  I am not a girl (which to me is a female child),
and strongly object to being called one.  To me, "women" means adult, and
adult implies a certain compentence (including knowing a large subset
of the every day survival skills such as tuning cars, changing tires,
changing fuses, etc.).  The women I know (without exception!) do object
to being called "girl," and they do not play "helpless female".
(In fact, one or two carry things to an extreme, feeling that they
must be able to do anything themselves without anyone's help!)
 
We obviously are in a different cultural milieu.  I just didn't want
net readers to believe yours was the only one that exists.
 
	K. Wilber (iheds!kmw)
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K. M. Wilber
iheds!kmw or mvuxt!kw