Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 UW 5/3/83; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!cbosgd!ucbvax!ucbcad!tektronix!uw-beaver!laser-lovers From: laser-lovers@uw-beaver Newsgroups: fa.laser-lovers Subject: [Crean.HENR@PARC-MAXC.ARPA: Re: Magnetic Printer] Message-ID: <793@uw-beaver> Date: Fri, 6-Jan-84 14:58:16 EST Article-I.D.: uw-beave.793 Posted: Fri Jan 6 14:58:16 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Jan-84 04:39:56 EST Sender: root@uw-beave Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 89 From Furuta@WASHINGTON.ARPA Fri Jan 6 11:58:11 1984 The following two messages apparently got lost before they made it out to the Usenet. I'm consequently resending them. --------------- 1) 28-Dec Crean.HENR@PARC-MAXC Re: Magnetic Printer 2) 31-Dec Charles Hedrick Re: More 9700 experience Message 1 -- ************************ Mail-From: FURUTA created at 28-Dec-83 13:29:07 Return-Path: Received: from PARC-MAXC.ARPA by WASHINGTON.ARPA with TCP; Wed 28 Dec 83 13:06:36-PST Date: Wed, 28 Dec 83 16:05 EST From: Crean.HENR@PARC-MAXC.ARPA Subject: Re: Magnetic Printer In-reply-to: <[OFFICE-3]21-Dec-83 11:02:34.WMARTIN> To: WMartin@Office-3.ARPA (Will Martin) cc: Laser-Lovers@WASHINGTON.ARPA ReSent-date: Wed 28 Dec 83 13:29:06-PST ReSent-from: Richard Furuta ReSent-to: "Laser Lovers": ; I can offer a bit more info on the 'Magnetic Printer'. This hardware was developed by Honeywell-Bull in Europe and has been offered to OEMs for the past eighteen months aggressively. The machines I saw at NCC were fanfold. In magnetic imaging, a long head with 240 head/inch (sort of like a giant mag tape head) writes the bit map on the drum (or tape in the case of a GE mchine). A single component magnetic toner (powder not liquid) brushes the drum and developes the image. Transfer to paper and fusing is similar to a office copier. The problems to be solved in this technology are head wear and the tradeoff between image density and background on the copy. In the Cynthia case, the head life is only moderate and replacement becomes a major contributor to the running cost and service frequency. When carefully done, magnetic imaging can make very high resolution images but no one has been able to capitalize on its ability to make many prints from a single magnetic image. This machine is a real tank compared to the imagen and is aimed at the low end of the Xerox 97/8700 and IBM 3800 market and also probably considered as a line printer replacement. The trick in the $27000 price is the required image generator. Pete Crean Xerox Corp Message 2 -- ************************ Mail-From: FURUTA created at 31-Dec-83 19:39:37 Return-Path: Received: from RUTGERS.ARPA by WASHINGTON.ARPA with TCP; Sat 31 Dec 83 15:58:22-PST Date: 31 Dec 83 18:58:01 EST From: Charles Hedrick Subject: Re: More 9700 experience To: BEC.SHAPIN%USC-ECL@SRI-NIC.ARPA cc: laser-lovers@WASHINGTON.ARPA In-Reply-To: Message from "Ted Shapin " of 20 Dec 83 14:17:00 EST ReSent-date: Sat 31 Dec 83 19:39:37-PST ReSent-from: Richard Furuta ReSent-to: "Laser Lovers": ; I do not understand the comment that JES is unable to pass all EBCDIC characters. We print Scribe output files, which use metacodes. These files are effectively binary, so the fact that they print correctly seems to indicate that every 8-bit combination can be printed. We use a separate forms type, since the 9700 must be started in a separate mode. But we do not open the device directly. The precautions that we have to take should not be applicable if you are really printing EBCDIC, as opposed to Scribe metacodes (which are in fact internal Xerox ASCII): - Be careful about DCB parameters. I don't recall which we use, but if you aren't careful, JES will add trailing blanks. I think we use VB, with machine carriage control instead of ANS (to cause JES to do the minimum amount of processing). - If you are printing ASCII on the 9700, be careful of the ASCII character that looks like an EBCDIC blank. If you end a line with it, JES may strip it. (We add an extra trailing ASCII blank in this case.) - If you are printing ASCII on the 9700, do something to keep JES from supplying burster pages, since theese will be in EBCDIC. We have hacked JES so that a certain SYSOUT class does not get burster pages. Under MVS/SP, JES seems to have a user exit that would make this change very easy. We are using MVS with JES2. We have used both MVS and MVS/SP. I think our MVS goes back to something like 8201. Our MVS/SP is quite recent. ------- -------