Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sri-unix!GLD%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA From: GLD%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: minority report Message-ID: <15683@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jan-84 12:40:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.15683 Posted: Mon Jan 16 12:40:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jan-84 06:13:44 EST Lines: 34 From: MAREK To repeat Minsky (and probably, most of the AI folk: one can only learn if one already almost knows it). By "can only learn if..." do you mean "can't >soon< learn unless...", or do you mean "can't >ever< learn unless..."? If you mean "can't ever learn unless...", then the statement has the Platonic implication that a person at infancy must "already almost know" everything she is ever to learn. This can't be true for any reasonable sense of "almost know". If you mean "can't soon learn unless...", then by "almost knows X", do you intend: o a narrow interpretation, by which a person almost knows X only if she already has knowledge which is a good approximation to understanding X-- eg, she can already answer simpler questions about X, or can answer questions about X, but with some confusion and error; or o a broader interpretation, which, in addition to the above, counts as "almost knowing X" a situation where a person might be completely in the dark about X-- say, unable to answer any questions about X-- but is on the verge of becoming an instant expert on X, say by discovering (or by being told of) some easy-to-perform mapping which reduces X to some other, already-well-understood domain. If you intend the narrow interpretation, then the claim is false, since people can (sometimes) soon learn X in the manner described in the broad- interpretation example. But if you intend the broad interpretation, then the statement expands to "one can't soon learn X unless one's current knowledge state is quickly transformable to include X"-- which is just a tautology. So, if this analysis is right, the statement is either false, or empty.