Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site rocksvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!dave From: dave@rocksvax.UUCP (Dave Sewhuk) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: ``Best'' classical stations Message-ID: <1188@rocksvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Jan-84 12:30:25 EST Article-I.D.: rocksvax.1188 Posted: Fri Jan 13 12:30:25 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Jan-84 00:07:46 EST References: <360@whuxk.UUCP> <777@hou5d.UUCP> Organization: Xerox, Rochester, N.Y. Lines: 49 All radio stations have at minimum 2 pieces of processing equipment, one is the 75uS pre-emphasis and the other is the peak deviation limiter. I am not sure about the 75uS pre-emphasis curve, but a limiter is required by FCC regulations and assures the station will not splash into the adjacent channel. The pre-emphasis is a simple RC filter and helps to eliminate channel "hiss". Some stations use excessive compression, clipping is a form of compression, listen to Roch. local FM station WHFM to hear heavy clipping, I like to call their method the "Schmidt Trigger" method. Someone earlier asked about how good a CD could sound on an FM station. That is a really hairy question. FM stations are allocated 150 Khz of bandwidth for the L/R information. In FM modulation bandwidth is consumed up in 2 ways, by making things "louder" and by putting higher frequency information within the channel. The mathmatics that allows you to calculate a giving amount of bandwidth for X amount of audio power @ Y frequency always produces an infinite series in frequency. So for any given modulation there is an infinite series of sidebands that make up that signal! So some distortion is inevitable, but usually it is very low, seeing the total power of these signals is a very, very small percentage of the total power for the stuff that is usually transmitted. A stereo FM signal consists of a <18 Khz channel of L+R information transmitted in FM and a Double sideband suppressed carrier L-R channel of <18 Khz on a 36 Khz "carrier". That "carrier" is an 18 Khz FM modulated tone doubled in frequency to get 36 Khz. So the upper frequency limit is 18 Khz no matter what you do because of that 18 Khz tone transmitted to get you the stereo information. It would take an infinite pole filter to get you response to 18 Khz. 15 Khz is usually the place where designers start rolling off high frequencies so you won't hear much of the 18 Khz tone. And if the high frequency stuff is loud you distort it a bit due to clipping of the side bands to keep the FM channel bandwidth within legal limits. >From the experiences I have heard here in Rochester on WXXI, which I feel is one of the best classical stations in the country (I had to say it), playing a CD and digitally mastered analog disk of the same material, is that the CD sounds a little better, crisper tones, etc than the analog counterpart. The test was to play the same selection and randomly switch between the two machines a few times without telling which machine was which until the end of the selection. In conclusion the CD due to its more faithful reproduction of lower frequencies, and lesser noise, should sound better in those departments, plus no dust/scratch noises!! -- Dave Arpa: Sewhuk.HENR@PARC-MAXC.ARPA uucp: {allegra, rochester, ritcv, ritvp, amd70, sunybcs}!rocksvax!dave