Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekig1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!zehntel!tektronix!tekig1!gregr From: gregr@tekig1.UUCP (Greg Rogers) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Unmeasurable differences? Message-ID: <1512@tekig1.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Jan-84 19:06:19 EST Article-I.D.: tekig1.1512 Posted: Sun Jan 15 19:06:19 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jan-84 01:30:52 EST References: <2389@rabbit.UUCP>, <6590@unc.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 34 Well controlled double-blind testing should prevent the problem that you site. Very simply, the frequency equalization device is only applied to one of the units under test at a time. That is one component is equalized to the other, not both components to some arbitrary flatness. There are two distinct cases. If the objective of the test is to disprove a particular component superior to another, the equalization device is applied only to the presumed inferior device which can only result in making it even more inferior except with regard to frequency response of course. If the test then shows no detectable difference between components, the equalization device certainly cannot be blamed for degrading the "superior" component. The assumed superior component is hence proved equivalent except for frequency response variations which can be simply corrected as in the test. If the purpose of the test is to prove no differences exist between components (neither being claimed as superior) then the test should be run twice with the equalization device first applied to one component and then the other. If both tests show no differences between components, then it is proved that no differences exist other than frequency response which again can be simply corrected as in the test. It is of course more complicated if the results of the test indicate that differences do exist. It is then necessary to isolate the cause as either the equalizer or components. There are numerous ways of doing this but it would then be up to the OPPONENTS of component differences to prove the equalizer at fault. In other words, the use of an equalizer could incorrectly influence the result in favor of those that claim differences in components, but CANNOT favor those that claim no differences when done in the correct manner that I've outlined. I hope this helps you understand how really objective these objective tests are when designed within the rules of scientific method. Greg Rogers