Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihnss.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihnss!warren From: warren@ihnss.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: methanol question Message-ID: <1888@ihnss.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Jan-84 09:37:49 EST Article-I.D.: ihnss.1888 Posted: Tue Jan 24 09:37:49 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jan-84 07:06:20 EST References: <202@pyuxnn.UUCP> <4545@rochester.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 38 Methanol causes two potential problems: 1) It eats some plastics, causing severe damage to some fuel systems. 2) It holds water much more effectively than gasoline. (It's the major ingreedient in gas-line driers and de-icers). This means that unless it's kept very dry, your fuel takes on a little water, which causes rust. Occasionally and in small quantities, I doubt that either of these is a problem. After all, I have never seen any warnings on gas-line de-icers or driers. I believe that problem 1 is the real thing to watch out for, and your owner's manual will probably tell you if your car is a problem. As to mileage, pure methanol has about half of the energy content per gallon of pure gasoline, thus you would expect lower mileage. In small quantities, however, it may improve mileage because the gas-methanol mixture burns more efficiently than gas alone. Unless you test your car on a dynamometer, or have some fuel system problem either caused or cured by the methanol, however, I doubt you will observe any difference. On another subject, I recently heard some serious discussion by the Chicago City Counsel on banning the sale (or use?) of leaded gas in the city. Since there are plenty of old cars around that really need the lubrication of the lead aditives, and those cars tend to belong to people who aren't in a position to trade them, this seems like a real problem for drivers. (Though lead in the exhaust is also a real problem for city residents.) Is this happening elsewhere? -- Warren Montgomery ihnss!warren IH x2494