Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxr!lew From: lew@ihuxr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.books Subject: SCIENCE: GOOD, BAD, AND BOGUS by Martin Gardner Message-ID: <851@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jan-84 15:17:39 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxr.851 Posted: Fri Jan 20 15:17:39 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jan-84 07:23:05 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 38 I bought this book hoping to find something about the remote viewing experiments depicted in NOVA: THe case for ESP. I was not disappointed. The book is a collection of articles written by Gardner on a variety of topics, and published in various magazines. Many are reviews of books relating to paranormal phenomena. A significant fraction have to do with the activities of Puthoff & Targ (P & T) who conducted the experiment depicted in NOVA. Gardner has an extensive history of knocking heads with P & T, starting I think with a 1975 article he wrote about Targ's ESP teaching machine and its negative results under controlled conditions. The book reproduces letters Gardner exchanged with Targ, and Gardner comments on various followups to the situations described. Gardner compares the Uri Geller phenomenon with similar incidents in the 1890's. A striking parallel is that conventional scientists were the principal dupes in those days too. (Zollner, an Austrian astrophysicist, eg) He describes P&T's involvement with Geller extensively. P&T's remote viewing is discussed in a review of the book, MINDREACH. One gets quite a different perspective on the whole set-up compared to what came across in the NOVA program. For example, there is quite a scientology crowd involved. This includes Puthoff, who is not only "clear" but has advanced to some sort of "Thetan" degree. The principal subject, Price, was similarly advanced in this respect. NOVA's lack of mention of this is damning in itself, I think. Gardner and Randi are viewed by some as extremists who categorically reject claims solely on the basis of their conventional prejudices, and who are so insecure as to stoop to personal attacks in the face of any rational challenge. I think their point is that trying to approach this mess as though it were a scientific dispute is a gross misjudgement in itself. The careers of various parapsychologists intertwine and run in and out of all sorts of bizarre situations. You should think about this entire context before agreeing to accept them on the terms of conventional science. Lew Mammel, Jr. ihnp4!ihuxr!lew