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From: myunive@nsc.UUCP (Jay Zelitzky)
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Subject: Re: Grades
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Date: Thu, 5-Jan-84 04:08:23 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan  5 04:08:23 1984
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	Like Lance I attended UC Santa Cruz.
I want to clear up one point Lance made.  UCSC does indeed not
have grades.  They do have written evaluations of your performance
in a class.  You get an evaluation that is anywhere from a paragraph
to several pages long of what you did in that class.

	Computer Science classes there are otherwise fairly similar to
those elsewhere complete with exams and projects.  There is a greater
tendency of professors there to assign group projects.  There is also
a very strong group spirit there.  Students in all classes tend to
work together since there is very little competition.

	Students from Santa Cruz rarely have trouble finding jobs as
most employers find evaluations much more valuable than grades in finding
out the suitability of people to work there.

	For those who wonder how UC Santa Cruz can continue to
exist in this society without grades.  It has never given grades since
it first opened in the early 60's.  It is a school of 7000 students in the
University of California system.   It was a haven for me and remains a haven
for people like me who value learning for its own sake.
				Jay Zelitzky
				hplabs!menlo70!nsc!myunive