Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou2h.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!hou2h!an From: an@hou2h.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: re: motorcycles for beginners Message-ID: <253@hou2h.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 18:45:24 EST Article-I.D.: hou2h.253 Posted: Wed Jan 18 18:45:24 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jan-84 01:06:39 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 65 Subject: re: motorcycles for novices Newsgroups: net.cycle Yes, definitely start out small! You don't know how much 400 lbs is until you have tried to pick it up as it lays there in a heap by the roadside. As for power, even a 400 cc bike have more than enough to lay waste to some $30K plus sport cars. My 550 with me (120 lbs) aboard has the same power to weight ratio as an early 70's Corvette with a 455 cid v8! Big bikes just mean big trouble if you are just starting out. I found it odd that the distinction was made between 250s and 400s. Most two-fifty's probably don't weigh a whole lot less than 400's. My guess: 300-350 lbs vs 400 lbs approx. If you wanna talk small, try 125's for a significant difference. I only sorta agree with that bit about starting out with an second hand bike though. Depends a lot on who you buy it from of course. Ask to see service records if the bike has any kind of mileage on it at all. Beware of self maintained bikes, unless the guy's got a ton of tools in his garage and a Lotus Europa all taken apart in a million pieces! And even then, beware ... Note also that lots of used bikes suffer from a lack of exercise. Weird stuff can form in the oil when it's allowed to sit for several months, corroding engine parts and probably reduce the oil's lubrication properties also. The best maintenance one can give a bike is to ride it regularly. And, of course, new is just --- well, newer! Because of the rotten economy last couple of years there are lotsa '83, '82 and maybe even '81 leftover bikes that can be had for a song. The Yamaha Seca 400 is good, and so is the Suzuki 450. Any of the Honda's using variations of the 400/450 6-valve twin are good solid pieces. And of course there's my personal favourite, the Kawasaki GPz305. Myself, I started out on a '74 Honda 360 in '80 because I couldn't afford anything much newer than that at the time, and I definitely didn't want anything bigger! After over 7000 miles in a bit over a year, at least half of which were long distance highway miles, I retired it in favour of a bigger bike. No complaints here! The long trips were not the most comfortable trips I've taken, but they were all fun and the bike never broke and left me stranded, which my dad's Chrysler station wagon did once! Brotherly instructions and other forms of informal lessons are poor stuff even for cars, and especially more so for bikes. There are official riding courses offered in most places. You can probably ask a bike shop in your area. Helmets are needless to say a *MUST*! Get a full face helmet unless you have a really good excuse. Football players wear 'em to face 300 lbs linebackers, and if you think you can face Grope in a 3000 lbs Buick without one, you oughtta have your head examined! Boots or shoes that cover the ankles are a good idea, and gloves too like the man said. Au Nguyen AT&T CP Holmdel, NJ (201) 834-1042