Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: RE: Sin in NY State plus..... Message-ID: <641@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Jan-84 16:50:21 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.641 Posted: Thu Jan 19 16:50:21 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jan-84 20:53:35 EST References: <533@eosp1.UUCP> Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 32 =============== State certified prostitutes , and other legal sins have of course been common in Europe. There are many pros and cons but I would like to describe one moral argument against state involvement which has tremendous force when one takes the time to think about it. Much of the activity that the prostitutes engage in will be the sort of thing that we like to think of as adult consensual activity. However some of it will be of a very different nature. Some of the clients are rabid psychotics who kill or seriously injure their companions. Some of the prostitutes live in fact in a state of involuntary slavery, against which the state makes no real attempt to protect them. The result is that the state is condoning a process which which destroys and tortures some of its citizens. =============== The first part of the above is quite true, but rather than increasing the risk to the citizens (prostitutes), it makes them safer. It is much easier for a prostitute to call for help when necessary if she is doing something that is accepted as normal practice than if she is liable to prosecution. The violent customer can be dealt with by a brothel security man, and if that is insufficient by the local police. When prostitution is legal and normally accepted, no-one is a slave to any kind of pimp. Prostitution becomes the same kind of job as office work or assembly-line work, with the same options for union protection and work-place standards. Only if you insist on calling it "vice" and "immoral" is there a problem with state-run prostitution. (In Europe, it is private-enterprise but state checked, and anyone can get into the game without worrying about the Mafia, so the same considerations apply.) -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt