Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!mart From: mart@utcsrgv.UUCP (Mart Molle) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Fast driving Message-ID: <3122@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jan-84 09:36:47 EST Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.3122 Posted: Mon Jan 16 09:36:47 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Jan-84 10:35:47 EST References: <199@we53.UUCP> Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto Lines: 59 > "As power(and hence, fuel) used is directly proportional to the SQUARE of > velocity, and viscous drag factors to the fourth and higher powers, it is > totally without justification to assert that no more fuel is used at 70 > mph than at 55..." Sorry Brian, unlike all those massless springs and frictionless hinges we all used in freshman physics problems, automobiles do NOT exhibit ideal behaviour. Using your reasoning, then, am I to believe that my car's fuel mileage will approach INFINITY at very slow speeds? My car's certainly does not. Does yours? Don't forget that (1) there are speed-independent contributions to the consumption of fuel (such as the alternator, engine driven fan, internal friction in the drivetrain, etc.), (2) gasoline engines are EXTREMELY non-linear in their conversion to fuel into power, based on load, throttle position, rpm, etc., and (3) automobiles are equipped with a DISCRETE set of gear ratios in their transmissions, so that, say 55mph, could easily fall BETWEEN the optimum speeds in two adjacent gears. Thus such generalities are no more relevant to the discussion of whether the fuel consumption of my car goes up or down when my cruising speed increases from 55mph to 65mph than a comparison of the assymptotic complexities of the bubble sort and quicksort is to the problem of deciding which C program sorts 20 integers in minimum time. Lots of airplanes attain their maximum cruising range at speeds greater than 55mph. Why shouldn't some cars? > "... and so you can see that the > ASSertion that no lives are saved is invalid without even referring to > the 1974 statistics on highway deaths which showed the first DECREASE in > highway fatalities coinciding with the implementation of the 55 mph limit." I suppose it does not matter that 1974 also happened to coincide with a gas crisis, a downturn in the U.S. economy and lots of other things which correlate better with changes in highway fatalities. How do you rationalize the fact that the fatality rate declined EQUALLY on all roads that year, including those whose speed limit was ALREADY at or below 55mph? There have been some excellent articles on this subject in `Road & Track' and `Car and Driver' within the last couple of years. Apparently the changes in highway fatalities correlate most strongly with changes in the GNP [perhaps because poor/depressed people are less likely to joyride or drink and drive?]. I suggest you go to the library and browse through some back issues. I found the charts on pages 68 and 69 of the July 1983 issue of `Car and Driver' very enlightening. They show that the 55mph limit has not altered the long-term trend in the death rate per vehicle mile, and that annual traffic deaths follow the Industrial Production Index. `Road & Track' had a much better-researched article a while back, but I don't have it handy. Many people resent the 55mph limit because its supporters sound like they are on a holy crusade. Sometimes saving fuel and lives seem like excuses for protecting the 55mph limit from its ``obviously'' irresponsible murderous opposition. If the object really is to save fuel, why not first implement 20 other things that are more cost effective, like annual vehicle inspections, even roadside spotchecks for tire pressure! If the object really is to save lives, why not first try compulsory seatbelt usage, daytime headlight usage, or teaching people how to drive? I don't see the logic. It reminds my of children who don't want YOU to do anything THEY don't like. Mart L. Molle University of Toronto