Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!zehntel!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbesvax.turner From: ucbesvax.turner@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.games.go Subject: Re: go program prize -- update - (nf) Message-ID: <1239@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Jan-84 03:58:06 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.1239 Posted: Thu Jan 5 03:58:06 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Jan-84 03:19:26 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 33 #R:ittvax:-121200:ucbesvax:38500003:000:1482 ucbesvax!turner Jan 4 03:19:00 1984 /***** ucbesvax:net.games.go / ittvax!rlw / 12:01 pm Jan 3, 1984*/ We are now prepared to offer a $1000 prize. But there seems to be little interest within this group. Where can we find the computer Go enthusiasts? Maybe it would be better to offer an annual prize for the best contestant in a program-to-program matchup? --dick Wexelblay (...decvax!ittvax!wxlvax!rlw) Who is "we"? (Does it include a fellow named Dick Wexelblat, who is usually in less of a hurry? :-) And how can you (implicitly) define "computer Go enthusiast" as someone who is going to write a sho-dan program for $1000 This is sort of like offering $1000 to anyone who can design something as fast as the next Cray machine in his\her spare time. As for the sort of technical secrecy generated by head-to-head competition of one program against another, I think that would be counterproductive at this point. I would be far more impressed by a 10-kyu teaching program (i.e., one that could explain--however haltingly--to a 15-kyu what his blunders were) whose algorithms could be understood by most of us, than by two independently- developed 5 kyu programs battling over which will get white on the next game. This newsgroup is about dissemination. To the extent that it is about computer Go, we should be talking about strategies, data structures, algorithms, implementation languages, existing programs and their failures. --- Michael Turner (ucbvax!ucbesvax.turner)