Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!whuxle!pyuxll!abnjh!u1100a!pyuxn!benw From: benw@pyuxn.UUCP (B Weber) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: On Natural Mothering (FLAME) Message-ID: <387@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Dec-83 14:10:25 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxn.387 Posted: Tue Dec 20 14:10:25 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Jan-84 04:15:31 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Piscataway Lines: 56 What an amazing article! Sounds like you're really in tune the the cosmic ecological vibes, 'cause, like, babies need their space to relate to. What a crock!! We have twin girls, 7 months old (Allison and Shannon). They are bottle fed, with a flexible schedule. The last bottle of the night is just that. They sleep in their own room, in their own cribs. They use pacifiers (they often put them in themselves). The results are: 1) a close, loving relationship with wonderful little persons who just happens to be your child! 2) children who knows what love is and feels deeply loved, 3) a sense of satisfaction that you gave of yourself to do your job of parenting as well as you could. Other results are: 4) A close loving relationship with a person who just happens to be my wife. 5) Children who are self reliant, confident, can learn on their own and occupy themselves. 6) Parents who can perform other functions besides parenting. We don't neglect our kids. I won't go into the details of how we are raising them, but we give them all the attention they need; they are happy and alert and have wonderful dispositions (sorry, but they've always slept through the night...maybe I should wake them up for a feeding). The main "method" is to use our common sense, and that means, to us, a time for them, a time for us, and a time for all of us together. Natural parenting? What is that, exactly? Organic parents? EST for tots? I am very tired of hearing and reading what I MUST do to be a good parent, lest I scar my children for life. We do what our common sense dictates. That does not include spending ALL of our time with our kids, dedicating EVERY MOMENT of our attention to them, or letting them alone dictate our lives. I mean, housework has to get done too, y'know. Every author in the world is an expert, and there are a lot of child raising books that set me on the floor laughing. For instance, one book (whose name, gratefully, escapes me), stated that you should NEVER, EVER, EVER ignore a child's cry. (a view with which you agree, no doubt). Does the author have kids? We can tell when our kids are uncomfortable, in pain, hungry, etc, but sometimes they cry because they are overtired, just in a cranky mood, and even (shocks of shocks) because they don't want to be held anymore. I do believe that you can be overattentive; I feel it is as bad as neglect, but that is beside the point. If you feel that "natural" parenting is the way to go, fine...we all take our consequences. But don't label parents who raise children in the accepted way of our culture as "unfulfilled"; don't look down on the rest of society. Our kids are NOT unnatural, NOT inferior, and will no doubt grow up to lead good, productive lives. Ben Weber AT&T T (WECO) PY pyuxn!benw