Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!duke!mcnc!unc!elc From: elc@unc.UUCP (Dr. Ed Chaney ) Newsgroups: net.lang.pascal,net.lang Subject: A quality Pascal for UNIX/VAX Message-ID: <6599@unc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Jan-84 00:13:31 EST Article-I.D.: unc.6599 Posted: Sun Jan 15 00:13:31 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Jan-84 20:24:01 EST Organization: CS Dept., U. of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 154 Subject: RE: A quality Pascal for UNIX/VAX Newsgroups: net.lang,net.lang.pascal First the bad news. This comes as more of a reiteration than an answer. I, too, am looking for a *quality* Pascal. By that I mean J&W with at least the following set of extentions/features : * Honest to Nick PACKED arrays/records * random access file support * external (seperate compilation) * conformant (dynamically dimensioned, if you must) arrays * #include * a loophole function to get around that wonderful strong typing when you ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY have to do it * 850 types of optimization (10 or 12 will do if they're the RIGHT 10 or 12) * ALL characters of identifiers significant * source-level debugger * a beautifier w/ syntax checking * optional disable of run-time checking for mature programs or those that need to fly What I have described above exists for many DEC operating systems and, according to my sources, for 68000 UNIX. It is supplied by a great bunch of folks who call themselves Oregon Software. I have used their RT-11 (actually TSX-Plus, but who's counting?) version and love it. Now, here's the closest I can come to good news. They are doing everything but promising that an implementation for VAX/UNIX will be available Real Soon Now (sorry, JP). As I said, their 68000 UNIX version and their VMS version are either ready or real close. What we need to do is get together and show them our money. They make a quality product and I would like your help in convincing them to make just one more version. By the way, it's called Pascal-2 and is not cheap. But I think it's worth the price. At least until we can get Modula-2. Any takers? George W. Sherouse Subject: RE: A quality Pascal for UNIX/VAX Newsgroups: net.lang,net.lang.pascal First the bad news. This comes as more of a reiteration than an answer. I, too, am looking for a *quality* Pascal. By that I mean J&W with at least the following set of extentions/features : * Honest to Nick PACKED arrays/records * random access file support * external (seperate compilation) * conformant (dynamically dimensioned, if you must) arrays * #include * a loophole function to get around that wonderful strong typing when you ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY have to do it * 850 types of optimization (10 or 12 will do if they're the RIGHT 10 or 12) * ALL characters of identifiers significant * source-level debugger * a beautifier w/ syntax checking * optional disable of run-time checking for mature programs or those that need to fly What I have described above exists for many DEC operating systems and, according to my sources, for 68000 UNIX. It is supplied by a great bunch of folks who call themselves Oregon Software. I have used their RT-11 (actually TSX-Plus, but who's counting?) version and love it. Now, here's the closest I can come to good news. They are doing everything but promising that an implementation for VAX/UNIX will be available Real Soon Now (sorry, JP). As I said, their 68000 UNIX version and their VMS version are either ready or real close. What we need to do is get together and show them our money. They make a quality product and I would like your help in convincing them to make just one more version. By the way, it's called Pascal-2 and is not cheap. But I think it's worth the price. At least until we can get Modula-2. Any takers? George W. Sherouse Subject: RE: a quality Pascal for VAX/UNIX Newsgroups: net.lang.pascal First the bad news. This comes as more of a reiteration than an answer. I, too, am looking for a *quality* Pascal. By that I mean J&W with at least the following set of extentions/features : * Honest to Nick PACKED arrays/records * random access file support * external (seperate compilation) * conformant (dynamically dimensioned, if you must) arrays * #include * a loophole function to get around that wonderful strong typing when you ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY have to do it * 850 types of optimization (10 or 12 will do if they're the RIGHT 10 or 12) * ALL characters of identifiers significant * source-level debugger * a beautifier w/ syntax checking * optional disable of run-time checking for mature programs or those that need to fly What I have described above exists for many DEC operating systems and, according to my sources, for 68000 UNIX. It is supplied by a great bunch of folks who call themselves Oregon Software. I have used their RT-11 (actually TSX-Plus, but who's counting?) version and love it. Now, here's the closest I can come to good news. They are doing everything but promising that an implementation for VAX/UNIX will be available Real Soon Now (sorry, JP). As I said, their 68000 UNIX version and their VMS version are either ready or real close. What we need to do is get together and show them our money. They make a quality product and I would like your help in convincing them to make just one more version. By the way, it's called Pascal-2 and is not cheap. But I think it's worth the price. At least until we can get Modula-2. Any takers? George W. Sherouse Subject: RE: A quality Pascal for UNIX/VAX Newsgroups: net.lang,net.lang.pascal First the bad news. This comes as more of a reiteration than an answer. I, too, am looking for a *quality* Pascal. By that I mean J&W with at least the following set of extentions/features : * Honest to Nick PACKED arrays/records * random access file support * external (seperate compilation) * conformant (dynamically dimensioned, if you must) arrays * #include * a loophole function to get around that wonderful strong typing when you ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY have to do it * 850 types of optimization (10 or 12 will do if they're the RIGHT 10 or 12) * ALL characters of identifiers significant * source-level debugger * a beautifier w/ syntax checking * optional disable of run-time checking for mature programs or those that need to fly What I have described above exists for many DEC operating systems and, according to my sources, for 68000 UNIX. It is supplied by a great bunch of folks who call themselves Oregon Software. I have used their RT-11 (actually TSX-Plus, but who's counting?) version and love it. Now, here's the closest I can come to good news. They are doing everything but promising that an implementation for VAX/UNIX will be available Real Soon Now (sorry, JP). As I said, their 68000 UNIX version and their VMS version are either ready or real close. What we need to do is get together and show them our money. They make a quality product and I would like your help in convincing them to make just one more version. By the way, it's called Pascal-2 and is not cheap. But I think it's worth the price. At least until we can get Modula-2. Any takers? George W. Sherouse