Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!burton From: burton@fortune.UUCP (Philip Burton) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: IBM-PC as a 370 ?? Message-ID: <2156@fortune.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jan-84 14:34:26 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.2156 Posted: Tue Jan 3 14:34:26 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jan-84 05:11:02 EST References: <1684@ihuxf.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 32 About five years ago, when the Apple // was the newest (only) game in town, there was some discussion in Datamation about putting OS/370 on a micro. One very perceptive person, it could have been Portia Isaacson, raised the point that OS/370/micro would not be very exciting. Who needs that batch orientation, the author wrote, with that ##@&*& JCL, etc. (Anyone who has ever worked with JCL, TSO, etc., will think that even cp/m is nice, let alone UNIX.) Unless VM/CMS is **much** improved over what it was when I last used it in 1979, that too isn't exactly user-friendly, including the manuals for which IBM is famous. (Obfuscation raised to a fine art.) At that time, the editor was awful, simply awful, to anyone who had used even TSO, let alone WYLBUR. So, one might conclude that a PC running CMS isn't really a personal computer in the sense of spreadsheets, easy word processing, etc. Rather, it's a low cost 370, or 4300, another "fighting machine" designed to keep the Fortune 1000 all Blue. If I'm were a programmer who is used to CMS COBOL or FORTRAN or whatever, then I'd love the new PC. If I were my secretary struggling to learn a simple communications program, I'd quit before reading all those CMS manuals. -- Phil Burton, Fortune Systems: -- (415) 595-8444 x526 -- 101 Twin Dolphin Drive, Redwood City, CA 94065 -- {allegra,ucbvax!amd70,cbosgd,harpo,hpda,ihnp4,sri-unix,VisiA} !fortune!burton