Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!mit-eddie!smh From: smh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Steven M. Haflich) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: 1200 baud modem problems with break Message-ID: <1201@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 08:37:14 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1201 Posted: Wed Jan 18 08:37:14 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jan-84 02:22:16 EST References: <15373@sri-arpa.UUCP> <778@qubix.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 37 I do not understand what the modem has to do with the ability or inability to send a break. A break, as its name implies, is a long pulse (at least .25 seconds) on the data line. It looks the same as a momentary physical break in the line. As long as your computer or terminal can generate a break there shouldn't be any problem in it being passed through the modem. True, one imagines that a modem simply and instantaneously translates the state of the RS232 Transmitted Data line (a digital signal) to an frequency-encoded (analog) audio signal quite independantly of the frequency of bit transitions, and any modem which does this ought to be able to send BREAK. Many 300 baud modems indeed work this way. Notice that specs for 300 baud modems usually specify baudrate as 0-300 baud. Getting 1200 baud down a voice-grade line is entirely another matter. Very sophisticated filtering and phase-manipulation techniques are required both sending and receiving -- those messy analog circuits are why 1200 baud modems have been so expensive. Basically, the modem transmitter is a filter which converts Transmitted Data into control voltage(s) for an oscillator. This filter is very frequency dependant and is tuned to transitions at 1200 baud. (Ever notice that the baudrate specification for dual-speed modems is often given as "0-300, 1200 baud"? The Racal Vadic 3451 specs in front of me give: 103 mode: 0-300 baud; 212 mode: 1182-1212 baud.) Anyway, this filter can do unanticipated things when presented with a non-1200-baud signal. Clearly a modem must operate reasonably for arbitrarily long MARKs (idle state) but it is entirely possible that this filter might not pass a long SPACE -- which, as has been pointed out, translates into the BREAK "character". The filtering on most modems do indeed seem able to translate MARKS. Although I am not familiar with the modems in question, I suspect the nature of the filtering used to achieve low cost may be the reason for inability to send BREAK. Steve Haflich, MIT