Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pur-phy.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Physics:mal From: Pucc-H:Physics:mal@CS-Mordred.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.cbm Subject: Re: Problems with V2 C64 and joystick Message-ID: <1163@pur-phy.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Jan-84 22:32:48 EST Article-I.D.: pur-phy.1163 Posted: Sun Jan 22 22:32:48 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jan-84 04:38:33 EST References: <633@security.UUCP> Organization: Purdue University Physics Dept. Lines: 18 Having the same problem with a joystick in port 1, I decided to glance at the schematic. It seems that one of the CIAs is used for both the keyboard and port 1. As far as I can remember, they just pull in the lines from the keyboard matrix and connect them with the lines from port 1 as they tie them into the CIA I/O pins. One glance will probably clarify things. As far as I can tell, yes, it's supposed to be like that. It's just one of the shortcuts they used in squeezing out costs. Screwing around with it for a few minutes will prove, though, that the junk characters are not always consistent, so this characteristic cannot be used to simply 'GET A$' the port 1 joystick data. Hope this is of some help! (or perhaps reassurance) Mark Lucas Purdue Physics mal@pur-phy