Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!cbosgd!dir From: dir@cbosgd.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Psychic Warfare - an informed opinion Message-ID: <832@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Sat, 14-Jan-84 01:11:09 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.832 Posted: Sat Jan 14 01:11:09 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Jan-84 00:35:59 EST Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Lines: 43 1. Yes, certain government agencies are supporting psychic research with potential military applications. 2. Yes, the Soviets and associated Iron Curtain countries are doing research in military and political uses of 'psi', and we know (1) they have spent a lot of time and money on this research, (2) their political philosophy is not prone to supporting anything that might smack of mysticism, thus we are fairly sure they are serious about it and they at least feel they're not wasting their money, and (3) it is possible that they are more advanced than we because their government-supported research has been performed for years at fairly high levels, whereas our comparable research has been supported at low levels for only about a decade. 3. Reputable research labs in the US have performed experiments strongly suggesting that direct mental disruption of computer circuits IS possible, although specially selected people are required to make these effects occur, and even they cannot always produce the desired results upon demand. 4. A few major industrial research labs are investigating the possible computer-mind link, although most of the more visible work is being performed in Europe. I make the above statements based on the following: I know the people involved fairly well, I have visited most of the labs doing this work in the US, and I've performed (and published) replications of some of their claims. I am by no means sold on the whole psychic scenario, because a lot of it gets REAL wierd (including some of the people), but there is enough interesting evidence around to motivate me to mildly defend the topic even in the high-tech skeptical world of netnews. Watch PBS's NOVA on January 17th: "The Case of ESP." I was involved with this show, which was originally made by the BBC and broadcast as a "Horizon" program in England a couple of months ago. NOVA bought and edited the program; I don't know if my interview will be shown on the NOVA version, but in any case, I'll be glad to discuss the show with anyone. Please send flames to /dev/null, praise to /dev/ego, and all other comments to cbosgd!dir. Dean Radin - AT&T Bell Laboratories - cbosgd!dir