Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!fortune!phipps From: phipps@fortune.UUCP (Clay Phipps) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.misc,net.unix Subject: Big Blue OS / Re: Who's Next? (Version 2) Message-ID: <2292@fortune.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Jan-84 00:35:01 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.2292 Posted: Mon Jan 23 00:35:01 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Jan-84 06:42:04 EST References: <780@hao.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 47 Many people are assuming that IBM users are a complacent and contented lot, taking whatever Big Blue gives them as an operating system. What they don't realize is that there are many parallels between VM/370 and UNIX. OS origin: UNIX: Developed by Bell Labs, a research organization. VM: Developed by IBM Cambridge Scientific Center, a research and marketing support organization, i.e., not part of IBM's mainstream software development organization. OS goals: UNIX: Provide a modest but effective interactive computing environment (I'm not quoting anyone; that's just my perception). VM: Provide a modest and efficient interactive computing environment; in particular, do not attempt to be everything to everybody. OS network culture: UNIX: Communication with the world via USENET; the largely unrestricted commmunication sometimes drives management crazy. VM: Communication with the world (ignoring SNA/SDLC protocols) via VNET (actually, I'm not sure if VNET is available yet outside IBM itself); the largely unrestricted commmunication drives IBM management crazy. Host vendor attitude: UNIX: DEC pushes its customers to use VMX or RSX or ..., not UNIX, and hoped that UNIX would just go away some day. VM: IBM pushes its customers to use MVS/XA, MVS, SVS, or (long ago) OS/360, and hoped that VM would just go away some day. Customer attitude: UNIX: Probably the dominant OS for pdp-11s and probably VAXes, too. VM: The dominant OS on IBM mainframes (in terms of number of machines). In the IBM world, including within IBM itself, use of VM/370 is an act of *resistance* against oppression (i.e., MVS), rather one than of submission. There are many otherwise computer-literate people in the IBM world, sheltered place that it is, who have never heard of UNIX; if they did have some exposure to it, they might well prefer it. -- Clay Phipps -- {allegra,amd70,cbosgd,dsd,floyd,harpo,hollywood,hpda,ihnp4, magic,megatest,nsc,oliveb,sri-unix,twg,varian,VisiA,wdl1} !fortune!phipps