Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!zehntel!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbesvax.turner From: ucbesvax.turner@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Psychic Warfare - an informed opinio - (nf) Message-ID: <1320@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Jan-84 08:09:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.1320 Posted: Sun Jan 15 08:09:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jan-84 01:22:12 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 23 #R:cbosgd:-83200:ucbesvax:6000014:000:955 ucbesvax!turner Jan 14 12:38:00 1984 /***** ucbesvax:net.misc / cbosgd!dir / 8:49 am Jan 14, 1984*/ Subject: Psychic Warfare - an informed opinion 2. Yes, the Soviets and associated Iron Curtain countries are doing research in military and political uses of 'psi', and we know (1)... ...(2) their political philosophy is not prone to supporting anything that might smack of mysticism, thus we are fairly sure they are serious about it and they at least feel they're not wasting their money,... We *are* talking about the same people who brought us T.D. Lysenko? And I believe there was an official position for some years that quantum mechanics was just a lot of bourgeois fulminating. To quote a friend of mine (the first translator into English of Marx's mathematical manuscripts): "You can prove *anything* with dialectical materialism." How much more mystical than that can you get? --- Michael Turner (ucbvax!ucbesvax.turner)