Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site denelcor.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!denelcor!rob From: rob@denelcor.UUCP (Rob Wahl) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Separatism Message-ID: <276@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jan-84 20:59:49 EST Article-I.D.: denelcor.276 Posted: Fri Jan 20 20:59:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jan-84 22:58:41 EST Organization: Denelcor, Aurora, CO Lines: 19 I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with separatism in gay bars. I enjoy seeing a wide variety of people in the bars I frequent, and it makes me particularly angry to see women refused admission to gay bars. God knows there are few enough places where gays and lesbians interact, and the gay community tends to be insular. I also feel that the bars thrive on the stereotypes many of us are trying to transcend. On the other hand, I resent it when straight couples start frequenting gay bars. Rarely do they mix; they stand safely in their pairs or clusters and observe from a distance, as it were. Often they throw disapproving looks to the overtly gay (we didn't come here to watch guys neck, we came because we heard it was a great place to dance). And once enough of them start coming, cruising becomes difficult. Consequently the gays leave to find a more hospitable place, and the bar dies. I have seen too many great bars bite the dust because of straight invasion. Perhaps I wouldn't mind so much if they made me feel welcome in *their* bars. Robert Wahl {hao,allegra,brl-bmd}!denelcor!rob