Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site randvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!david From: david@randvax.ARPA (David Shlapak) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Real slime vs. Real music Message-ID: <1611@randvax.ARPA> Date: Tue, 3-Jan-84 20:55:46 EST Article-I.D.: randvax.1611 Posted: Tue Jan 3 20:55:46 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Jan-84 02:28:24 EST References: <203@astrovax.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 34 To tss@astrovax --- I hate to interpret other folks' words, but my impression is that you and tekig!david are talking past each other. I understood david to be arguing that just because a piece of music is of recent vintage and its composer is not dead does not mean it is not "real music (a term I abhore, by the by)." I understand you to be arguing that the experience of music is independent of its age or style and is, much like the reading of a fine book, a meeting of two minds, one belonging to the author and the other to the audience. So where, may I ask is the disagreement? The enjoyment of music is an entirely subjective experience and I am frankly tired of being told by critics and other self-professed experts that certain forms (or styles, or periods) are inherently and objectively superior to others. My musical tastes run from pre-Gregorian chants through McCoy Tyner to the Go-Gos and I don't consider any of it more "real" than any other. Even those styles that are personally not to my liking (gospel & bluegrass) I cannot condemn as "junk" or "slime." Like you said, the composer, even in these forms, is trying to say something; I just don't care for the medium or the message...THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIM OR HIS WORK IN ANY WAY INFERIOR...chacun a son gout... Rock on... From the shores of Babylon hard by the leper colony, --- das