Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: The Fallacy of Faith Message-ID: <637@dciem.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 19:23:38 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.637 Posted: Wed Jan 18 19:23:38 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Jan-84 20:49:03 EST References: <1652@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 21 Tom Craver is wrong about science not depending on faith, and not for the reasons Laura Creighton brings up. Tom could be correct IF each scientist personally made all the observations and deductions that led to the theories in which s/he believes. But nobody can possibly do that. The faith on which science is based is faith in the validity of reports. You believe that false reports will be contradicted later by other reports that are more consistent with data from yet other experiments. The test of your faith is not truth, but consistency. Yet the structure of science, in the form of the range of its theories, is quite loose. We KNOW that all our theories will sooner or later prove to be wrong in some detail. We don't have perfect consistency. So, reports that are inconsistent with what we think other reports imply may well prove not to be false. They may merely tell us that our current interpretations are wrong. Yes, science is based on faith. But it isn't faith in facts, it's faith in the ultimate consistency of the world, if ever we could understand it. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt