Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site iwu1c.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!iwu1c!jgpo From: jgpo@iwu1c.UUCP (John, KA9MNK) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Evidence for the soul?!? Message-ID: <192@iwu1c.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 11:00:49 EST Article-I.D.: iwu1c.192 Posted: Wed Jan 18 11:00:49 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jan-84 04:48:24 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 49 ========================================================================== So how do you explain the fact that a toy balloon weighs more when inflated than when deflated? The moisture in the breath used to inflate the balloon is usually much greater than the relative humidity in the surrounding air. And since water is heavier than air... ========================================================================== Actually, water vapor is *lighter* than air. Air is mostly nitrogen and oxygen, and H2O has a lower molecular weight than either N2 or O2. The next time you find yourself in the same room with a flight instructor, ask him/her about "density altitude." You'll find that the factors which influence density altitude are atmospheric pressure (natch), temperature (obviously the BIGGIE), and (surprise!) humidity. The more humid, the less dense the air. In all probability, loss of air from the lungs accounts for the weight loss after death. (The air making up the tidal volume obviously escapes; does anybody know if any part of the residual volume escapes with the loss of muscle tone?) Moisture, as one person suggested, undoubtedly escapes and makes the body lighter, but this would be a gradual loss. The weight loss we are trying to explain is supposedly a *sudden* one. I'm sure there's nothing metaphysical about it, at all. From the filthy, no-good, unAmerican, atheistic keyboard of John Opalko AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL {whatever}!ihnp4!iwu1c!jgpo PS: The reason an inflated balloon weighs more than a flat one is the air inside a balloon is *under pressure.* It contains more molecules per unit volume than the atmosphere surrounding the balloon. Thus, it weighs more than the volume of the air it displaces. (Granted, that buoyancy makes that balloon weigh less in a room full of air than it would weigh in a vacuum.)