Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou2g.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!hou2g!stekas From: stekas@hou2g.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics,net.tv Subject: Re: My thoughts on NOVA's ESP show Message-ID: <145@hou2g.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jan-84 17:55:43 EST Article-I.D.: hou2g.145 Posted: Fri Jan 20 17:55:43 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jan-84 07:28:40 EST References: <849@ihuxr.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 22 Lew Mammel is very correct to call attention to the physical implications of ESP/PSI. If remote viewing and psychokinesis are real then physics is out the window. Plain and simple. Attempts to reconcile physics and PSI by calling PSI as a new force like gravity or electricity and magnetism just won't work. First off, PSI shatters the entire concept of forces being mediated by particles. PSI forces "know" to couple strongly to the matter in a PSIcho's mind, to turn off the coupling while passing through walls and such, and then turn back on at a remote location to observe some scene or move a salt shaker. Forces mediated by dumb particles just can't do that kind of thing. The experiments shown on Nova were so hokey. First there's a woman moving a metal salt shaker across a table. Why not a glass one so I can be sure no magnets were involved? Then the camera shows some guy shaking his hands - next shot a light pops on on a table covered with equipment. Then I'm supposed to believe some guy viewing a far off scene and believe that the recreation I'm seeing is an authentic one. Common Nova, give us a break! Jim