Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!ima!haddock!johne From: johne@haddock.UUCP Newsgroups: net.railroad Subject: Re: Orphaned Response - (nf) Message-ID: <24@haddock.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jan-84 23:41:32 EST Article-I.D.: haddock.24 Posted: Mon Jan 2 23:41:32 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jan-84 02:55:31 EST Lines: 34 #R:dciem:-58500:haddock:15300002:177600:1809 haddock!johne Jan 2 17:47:00 1984 The throttle of a Budd RDC operates directly on the governors of the diesel engines, by means of solenoid-operated pilot valves within the governors, which are (presumably) hydraulic devices. MU is accomplished electrically, as usual. Each RDC has two Detroit Diesel "truck engines" of about 300 HP; each engine drives the inboard axle (only) of the adjacent truck through an Allison torque convertor (GM again) and conventional gearing. Now, the torque convertor is a device whose intimate acquaintance I have yet to make. I have always envisioned it as a fluid transmission with a continuously-variable ratio, consisting perhaps of opposing "fans" moving within a compact and pressure-tight enclosure so designed as to allow a finite amount of fluid to circulate other than through the vanes, thus allowing only a finite amount of slip. Perhaps someone can clarify this. On the subject of MU, it is interesting to note that while the electric transmission itself showed up pretty early on (notably, in gas-electric cars, precursors of the RDC), practical diesel-electric MU had to await the development of automatic load regulation mechanisms which could match the electric transmission with its inherent overload tolerance to the finite power output of internal combustion prime-movers. Early gas-electrics had generator excitation controlled manually by the engineman; this worked fine as long as that person was sitting next to the prime-mover and could guage its loading by ear. When a cab was added at the other end, however, and the prime-mover was out of earshot, embarrassment, rather than acceleration, was often the result of over-enthusiastic rheostat operation. This is a fascinating topic and I look forward to further discussions. John Ewing Boston, MA