Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Good and evil Message-ID: <1105@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Sat, 31-Dec-83 00:57:57 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1105 Posted: Sat Dec 31 00:57:57 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jan-84 02:06:10 EST References: <447@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 38 You must recall that according to the Bible, man was the cause of original sin and the fall from grace. Before Eve ate the apple from the tree, all of what Adam and Eve needed was provided for them. (The Bible doesn't say that Adam and Eve hunted animals for food, but it doesn't either, so you can draw your own conclusions.) What is important is that all the suffering of the Israelites, their 40-year trek in the desert, God's deliverance of the enemies of Israel into the Israelites' hands, etc. is a cause of original sin. To put it another way, man screwed up and got kicked off easy street, why does he complain that God is unjust in his dealings of punishments? If one is to follow the Bible literally, one cannot blame God for man's transgressions, except maybe to say that God should not have created man to be able to screw up if he hadn't wanted him to -- then God would have created robots not intelligent beings. The other alternative would have been for God to wipe out his creation again and again until he finally had a crop of living beings left over who would propagate into a race which lived according to His commandments. But then, He would never have been able to do this, because He created man to have free will -- there would always be some bad sheep which would give rise to worse sheep, etc. One more thing: there is a big difference between a coyote eating a rabbit and a human being hunting rabbits for sport. The former is an act of survival -- the coyote eats rabbits to stay alive. Whether or not he relishes the taste of rabbit is immaterial -- it is not a sin, or evil, for the coyote to like rabbit -- he is behaving as he must to stay alive. On the other hand, the human who kills a rabbit is acting out of selfishness -- it is not ok -- it is evil. Whether it is a sin is another issue, however, it is morally wrong to take a life (even if non-human) unnecessarily. So, when you talk about good and evil, you must restrict your examples to clear cases of good/evil, not cases involving survival (that includes people eating chickens, etc.) Oh Please Don't Burn My Mailbox --greg ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!gds