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From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: Vomiting on net.religion
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Date: Fri, 23-Dec-83 09:16:40 EST
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David Norris is apparently upset at Tim Maroney's reply to his test.  Tim says
he would accept the proof of god's existence that David offered (should the
proof exist and be substantiated), but he would not "accept" god/Jesus as a
savior based on his opinion of what he has seen of the likes this god (based
on the Bible itself).  Again, David makes assumptions that if god should
exist, he should be exalted by all who accept the proof of his existence. Again
I ask "Why?".  (Last time I did a got a roundabout response.)  Remember, this
is the same David Norris who pleaded for openmindedness among net.religion
readers.  What he apparently was asking for was people openminded enough to
accept the *possibility* of his beliefs being true, and *willing* to make the
extraordinary leap of faith to share those beliefs.  He goes on to say to Tim:

> If I proved that a hungry bengal tiger was trapped in the room with you, and
> that the only way to appease it was to throw it a big steak, I would bet you
> would throw it a steak.

I wonder how David and those who think like him would react in a fascist state.
"If I proved to you that our Leader/Fuehrer/etc. is the true master of our
country, and told you that resistance is futile, and that you should obey the
commands he gives and accept the offering of love he makes in his guide for
living, the Book of Ubizmo, I would bet you would throw him a steak, wouldn't
you?"  Sounds a lot like David's (and other people's) attitude towards god.
You've been well trained.

P.S.  Has anyone out there seen the ads on TV for the book "Power for Living"?
Famous celebrities (Pat Boone, Tom Landry, a senator?) talk about their
personal relationship with god.  Funny how all their personal speeches are
exactly the same. ("The most important thing in my life is MY personal
relationship with God.  Being a _____ is very ...., but I turn to God daily
for guidance and help.  You can too...")  Boy, some day we'll all be making
that speech and we'll all be happy, and everything will be fine...  I had to
laugh at the final quote from the Bible in that ad:  "The Word of God will
stand forever --- The Bible".  Strange, I remember the same line was in the
Book of Ubizmo...

Happy Holidays All!
-- 
					Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr