Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!ulysses!unc!bts From: bts@unc.UUCP (Bruce Smith) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Pharaoh's Heart & Is G-D a Vegetarian? Message-ID: <6533@unc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Jan-84 23:49:23 EST Article-I.D.: unc.6533 Posted: Mon Jan 9 23:49:23 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Jan-84 03:26:59 EST Organization: CS Dept., U. of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 49 It seems we can't agree on whether G-D hardened Pharaoh's heart, or whether Pharaoh hardened his own heart. (See Exodus 11:9 for a motive for G-D's doing it.) Personally, I think it was Mr. Cholesterol who hardened Pharaoh's heart. There's an earlier event, in Genesis, which it seems G-D could have prevented if He'd only acted fairly. I'd like to hear any comments on this story. The following is from Genesis 4:1-8, in the KJV: And Adam knew Eve his wife. And she conceived and bore Cain. And she said, I have gotten a man from Jehovah. And again she bore his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And as time went on, Cain brought to the LORD an offer- ing of the fruit of the ground. And Abel also brought of the first-born of his flock and of the fat of it. And the LORD had respect to Abel and to his offering, but He did not have respect to Cain and to his offer- ing. And Cain was very angry, and his face fell. And the LORD said unto Cain, Why are you angry, and why did your face fall? If you do well, shall you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin crouches at the door-- and its desire is for you, and you shall rule over it. And Cain talked to his brother Abel. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him. Why didn't G-D "have respect to Cain and to his offering"? If He had, a murder might have been prevented. Was it because G-D's not a vegetarian? (Doesn't it go along with unc!tim's claims for Him to be a carnivore?) There's a Randy Newman song which starts out with Cain murd- ering Abel. If anyone out there's got the words to that song, they might be appropriate for the discussion, too. _____________________________________ Bruce Smith, UNC-Chapel Hill decvax!duke!unc!bts (USENET) bts.unc@CSnet-Relay (lesser NETworks)