Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!duke!mcnc!unc!tim From: tim@unc.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Evidence for the Soul Message-ID: <6540@unc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Jan-84 14:34:00 EST Article-I.D.: unc.6540 Posted: Tue Jan 10 14:34:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Jan-84 04:23:45 EST References: <623@ihuxv.UUCP> Organization: CS Dept., U. of N. Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 19 Astral projection (which is what we in the Western Magickal tradition call John's "popping out of the body") is not by any stretch of the imagination evidence for the existence of the soul. The phenomenon can be explained completely by the existence of the psyche (which is self-evident to any but a behaviorist) and the capacity to experience without external sensory input controlling the experience. The consciousness of an astral voyager is not particularly different from that of a normal person, except that the experience is not directed by external sensory data. Therefore, the ability to astrally project does not imply the existence of any part of the human beyond the mere psyche. I should add that I do believe in the existence of higher manifestations of the Self, which are basically the same thing as the "soul" many people speak of. All I am saying is that the elementary practice of astral projection has no bearing on the issue. -- Tim Maroney, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill duke!unc!tim (USENET), tim.unc@csnet-relay (ARPA)