Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!ulysses!unc!bch From: bch@unc.UUCP (Byron Howes ) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Not Pharaoh again! (:-) Message-ID: <6559@unc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Jan-84 12:47:42 EST Article-I.D.: unc.6559 Posted: Wed Jan 11 12:47:42 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Jan-84 04:19:36 EST References: <743@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: University of North Carolina Comp. Center Lines: 30 Irrespective of the details and the particular Biblical quotes involved, tim's major point is worthy of debate: The deity described in the old testament is definitely given to punishing whole peoples (the Egyptians, the Midianites) for the perceived transgressions of the few. Were *all* of the Egyptian first-born and their parents somehow guilty of failing to free the Hebrews? Were *all* of the Midianites (excepting, of course, the virgin women) guilty of corrupting the Hebrews? I somehow doubt it. (Incidentally, if you think polluting the Nile isn't cruel try going without water for seven days -- there was no Pharoes WaterWorks in those days. The effects on crops and livestock, not to mention humans, would have been long term and disastrous.) The problem with adopting the position of Biblical inerrancy is that you may be putting words and actions in G-d's mouth, so to speak. Certainly this is a form of blasphemy. An historically justified, and simpler, explanation for the events that are being discussed here is that the Biblical narratives, like the Homeric narratives, are men's interpretation of natural and social events imputing that which is unexplainable or unjustifiable to the Deity. Prove to me that the Bible is completely inerrant, however, and I will happily and voluntarily join tim in line. If indeed the Diety is given to punishing whole peoples for the sins of some, and this country is on the road to perdition as some believe, then I will also expect to find Dave Norris in line behind me... -- Byron Howes UNC - Chapel Hill (decvax!duke!unc!bch)