Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site seismo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!flinn From: flinn@seismo.UUCP (E. A. Flinn) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: General comments Message-ID: <530@seismo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 11:35:13 EST Article-I.D.: seismo.530 Posted: Wed Jan 18 11:35:13 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jan-84 04:44:46 EST Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 31 I'd like to state a point of view which differs somewhat from those of people who have been posting messages to this category. It is simply to get on with living one's life as decently and humanely as possible, and to strive toward realization of whatever talents and goals one has, without worrying about dogma and the Meaning of Life. As a scientist, I don't see that there is a shred of evidence for the divine origin of Christianity or any other organized religion, although I respect other people's faith and opinions in this, as I expect them to respect mine. The god of the old testament is just appalling, and I imagine that a good many christians today would be shocked by a good deal of the old testament if they were forced to sit down and study it. The philosophy that Jesus preached is simple and attractive, and it seems to be universal in its appeal to the sense of decency that most people have; more or less the same ideas have been expounded by other teachers in other times. Looking at the history of the Christian church objectively, it seems to me that all the theology (the scapegoat business and all that) was invented by Alexandrian neoplatonists and by Paul. Gibbon's Chapters 50 and 51 are devastating on this. It didn't take long for the church to become Big Business, offering careers to ambitous people and constructing its own justification for existence as it went along. As Shaw and others have pointed out, if Jesus had been reincarnated a few hundred years ago, he would have been immediately burned as a heretic, and he certainly would be ignored and reviled today as an impossibly romantic idealist. Jesus never claimed that there was life after death, and for my own part I would have to side with Laplace, who at the close of a long but nonreligious life, in which he had been kind and generous to other people, said to the priest who came uninvited to save his soul, 'dieu me pardonnera - c'est son metier.'