Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!duntemann.wbst@PARC-MAXC.ARPA From: duntemann.wbst@PARC-MAXC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: FTL Message-ID: <15702@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jan-84 16:13:25 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.15702 Posted: Wed Jan 18 16:13:25 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jan-84 06:21:24 EST Lines: 53 ---------- Subject: Undelivered mail From: BacoNoir.ms (a Grapevine mail server) To: duntemann.wbst Date: 18-Jan-84 15:42:21 EST The message sent by duntemann.wbst at 18-Jan-84 15:41:35 EST could not be delivered to the following recipients because they were rejected by the MTP server "Maxc". The reason given was: Domain missing in ARPA recipient name "JAFFE&RUTGERS" JAFFE&RUTGERS.ARPA ---------------- From: duntemann.wbst Date: 18-Jan-84 15:37:40 EST Subject: FTL To: JAFFE&RUTGERS.ARPA The beauty of special relativity and time dilation is that it does NOT completely outlaw FTL travel. It only outlaws FTL with respect to an external reference frame. If you abandon external reference frames, you can travel as quickly as you like. With the exception of Anderson, few SF writers have picked up on this, and none that I know of treat it as a normal, useful effect. For example, assume you have a total conversion drive which accelerates all particles within a given volume equally--no stresses are placed on the substance of the starship or the people inside. With total conversion of matter, accelerations of 2000 or 3000 G should be easy enough to achieve. This violates no physical laws that I know of; obviously we don't know how to do it yet nor will we for some time. But that magnitude of acceleration would make a trip to the nearer stars a matter of weeks or months rather than centuries. So who gives a damn if the universe ages a millenium in the process? If the idea is to get a boatload of colonists somewhgere, timeslips like that are trivial--the planet won't change noticeably in the meantime. If we can ever perfect a "thruster" as Niven called them, we will travel as fast as we like--as long as we never look back. Godspeed, Jeff Duntemann duntemann.wbst@PARC-MAXC