Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!rh From: rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: What is "Trying Too Hard"? Message-ID: <1109@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Sun, 1-Jan-84 22:13:28 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1109 Posted: Sun Jan 1 22:13:28 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Jan-84 04:31:12 EST References: <2139@ihldt.UUCP> <988@sdchema.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 35 Originally, (when I first read this article), I was going to point out that communication is the important thing. But, since everyone has already lambasted Denise for not telling the guy that she was interested but busy (welcome to netnews, Denise), I'll punt that line. What I want to focus on is attitude in general. A lot of people have problems in the MOTOS arena. The key to the problem is the last word in the sentence. They think of getting someone to go out with them as some kind of contest, some intense competition, where they must resort to any means, no matter how devious, to succeed. Also, they feel the "target" is trying hard to evade them, so the attack must be truly awesome (not in Val-speak) to succeed. A truly sad view of the world. I suppose the thing about trying too hard stems from anxiousness, which is akin to anxiety, but not quite the same. This also has to do with self-confidence. If a man calls up a woman, thinking to himself, "She's too good for me, she'll never say yes...", then he's going to be anxious. This is also going to be obvious. I used to think this way (so did everyone, probably), but I got better. While I'm submitting, let's talk a little about lonliness. Having just ended a relationship that had been sort of there for 1-1/2 years, I'm now for the first time in years feeling "lonely." I attribute this to longing for a presence to snuggle up to (not for sex), which is something I hadn't really had much of before this latest relationship (this was very close to living together). I'm trying to decide whether I've become less secure and personally fulfilled in the last 2 years, or whether I'd just dropped the defenses against lonliness and haven't brought them back up. Anyone have similar experience? (too long and too incoherent....) -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh