Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert From: seifert@ihuxl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women,net.singles Subject: Re: Ramblings on Space (getting burned) Message-ID: <863@ihuxl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Jan-84 09:12:28 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxl.863 Posted: Thu Jan 26 09:12:28 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jan-84 12:26:57 EST References: <295@houxu.UUCP> <1693@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 59 {for those of you reading this in net.singles, this is a followup to an article by Laura in net.women. Net.singles seems to be a more appropriate group.} > This is the mythical 'sex makes all the difference in the world' > syndrome. The idea is 'well friends are friends, but sex, gee, > wow that's something really different'. I think that this is > a particularily crummy attitude. Well, Laura, I disagree. The "syndrome" is not mythical. Whether it's right or wrong is another matter. Some people view sex as just another form of recreation. Other people think that sex *is* something very special, and should be limited to one person, your spouse. And there is a whole continum(sp) in between. The Bible makes it clear that sex is *not* just recreation, so those subscribing to the Jewish or Christian religions will need to consider this. Persons dating someone with different religious beliefs will want to be very careful here. So what we have is a bunch of people with various attitudes towards sex. The problem comes when we *assume* that someone else feels the same way about it that we do. They may very well not, even if they totally agree with us on 173 other controversial topics. This is a real good way to get yourself burned. A slightly more 'generic' problem is "intimacy". Intimacy comes from trust, respect, and friendship. Intimacy is letting another person get inside you. This can be mentally and/or physically. Mentally, intimacy is sharing your deepest fears, your most secret thoughts with someone and not worring about being laughed at, or having your secrets transmitted to the 'grapevine'. There is a "special bond" between you. You know the person well enough to 'read their thoughts', to know what they are going to say before they say it. Physically, intimacy is sex. This doesn't have to be "all the way", it could just as well be "only" a kiss or a backrub or whatever. Now, some people can turn intimacy on and off like a light switch ('A'), others can't ('B'). A gets hurt when B doesn't reciprocate A's intimacy right away. B gets hurt when A abruptly 'pulls the plug', and B is left with a big gaping hole where the link to A used to be. So how do we keep from hurting each other? Hey, if I knew the answer to that one, I'd be rich! The only thing I can think of is to echo Laura's suggestion of trying to find out how each other feels *before* things go too far, and someone gets burned. Even then, we can still get burned, because emotions don't always listen to logic. (Ask me how I know!) -- _____ /_____\ from the flying doghouse of /_______\ Snoopy |___| ____|___|_____ ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert