Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!LIN@MIT-ML From: LIN%MIT-ML@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Interstellar space travel -- is it possible? Message-ID: <15042@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jan-84 23:35:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.15042 Posted: Tue Jan 3 23:35:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jan-84 00:57:20 EST Lines: 40 From: Herb Lin From: dietz%usc-cse%USC-ECL at SRI-NIC To: space at mit-mc cc: lin Re: Interstellar space travel -- is it possible? I don't recall seeing Lin's message in this digest, (was it a private message to REM?) but I'll respond anyway. Date: 2 January 1984 15:34 EST From: Herb Lin on survival, i think that the odds are essentially zero that we will contribute to the genetic pool in 10^11 years, regardless of nuclear war, because I don't believe that interstellar space travel will ever be possible. Herb, I don't see how you can make this prediction. Similar predictions were made for heavier-than-air flying vehicles, for sattelites, for manned spacecraft. These predictions, like yours, were made AFTER all the fundamental discoveries/inventions necessary had already been made. Many different schemes have been outlined for interstellar space travel that look feasible. I didn't realize that my submission would go to SPACE, but I don't mind. The reason I don't think I.S. travel will be possible is not for lack of technology, but for lack of motivation. Previous earth-bound explorers were at least motivated by the hope that they would be able to establish some kind of reasonable two-way interchange between whatever they found and where they came from. If you believe in relativity, there is no way that two way interchange can take place on time scales shorter than years (at the most optimistic prediction). That doesn't qualify as reasonable two-way interchange. Unmanned space probes are a different matter, and I suspect that it will someday be possible to send robots throughout the galaxy. But why would we do such a thing? To get back information, OK. To spread our gene pool? Why?