Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!REM@MIT-MC From: REM%MIT-MC@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.space Subject: The Nature of Paradigm Shifts --> space-based evolution Message-ID: <15012@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jan-84 23:42:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.15012 Posted: Mon Jan 2 23:42:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jan-84 01:37:18 EST Lines: 44 From: Robert Elton Maas Date: 2 January 1984 15:34 EST From: Herb Lin on survival, i think that the odds are essentially zero that we will contribute to the genetic pool in 10^11 years, regardless of nuclear war, because I don't believe that interstellar space travel will ever be possible. I disagree. Already we have achieved petri-dish fertilization, and soon may have petri-bowl pregnancy. Assuming we establish a permanent habitat in space, we'll have time to study the way cells work to where we can generate a living cell from nothing but the DNA (being sure to include all the symbiots of course: nuclear DNA, mitochondrial DNA, centrole DNA, and any other symbiots or escapees that may be hiding in the cell) and some chemicals. At that point, very small spaceprobes can deliver all the DNA of all the creatures from Earth to spots lightyears away by sending only the encoding of all the DNA and a machine to bootstrap a chemical factory, then recreating the DNA and the cells and the lifeforms in the new location. Of course the encoding of life can withstand higher accelerations and random jarring than the life itself could, and no life-support would be needed any time along the voyage, so cruder transportation means could be used such as pulsed Earth-based lasers or hydrogen-fusion explosions. By sending out lots of these tiny probes to lots of spots in the universe, travelling at relativistic speeds, we may be able to spread our genetic material throughout the universe in a rather short time, as an alternative to spreading computers/androids throughout the universe, if we should so choose. Of course after this initial seeding, evolution will occur everywhere and 1E11 years hence much of our genetic material will have been replaced by better (more survivable) genetic material, leaving only a small amount of our original stuff in its present form. But there will be many more chances for our stuff to mix with the new genes and find favorable combinations, so here and there one of our genes may actually survive, and other places some other genes may survive, and even if computers take over most of the universe by then, infestations of biological life will remain around and about, and some significant percentage of our current gene pool may actually be around in various nooks and crannies even then. On the other hand, if we stay here and just send robots out there, virtually all of our current genes will be EXTINCT in 1E11 years as you suggest.