Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!kcarroll From: kcarroll@utzoo.UUCP (Kieran A. Carroll) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Lunar landings, cold mining, launchings Message-ID: <3468@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jan-84 11:58:49 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.3468 Posted: Mon Jan 16 11:58:49 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Jan-84 11:58:49 EST References: <15313@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 27 * I see a problem, with both of the suggestions given for "sifting" lunar soil. Both methods are ways of fluidizing the soil, to allow larger rocks to sink far below the surface. However, at least if the rocks and soil are of similar densities, fluidizing the soil may make the larger rocks rise up, instead. Simple experiment: next time you're making instant coffee, put a spoonful of sugar and one of coffee crystals into the cup, before you add the water. Put the codffee in first, and the sugar afterwards. To start with, the sugar is then above the coffee. Now, shake the cup for a couple of seconds. If the coffee crystals are larger than the sugar grains, you'll (probably) find that the coffe crystals tend to rise to the top of the mix. I don't know what the relative densities are in this case, but you'll find that this works for differen-sized particles of identical densities. For example, if you (or your little brother) has a bag of marbles (remember those?), put a coupl of big ones in the middle of a jar full of little ones. After shaking, the big ones tend to rise to the top. The reason I've heard for this is that, when shaken, the small particles in these mixtures tend to fall into the small gaps underneath the large particles, making the large ones migrate upwards. I don't know if the same effect would be observed in the proposed lunar schemes, but I suspect that it would. Question: just how deep is the lunar "soil"? (of course, it's not real soil). -Kieran A. Carroll ...decvax!utzoo!kcarroll