Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdaisy.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdaisy!saquigley From: saquigley@watdaisy.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Nothing ever happens to people unless they want it to Message-ID: <6431@watdaisy.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Jan-84 10:32:29 EST Article-I.D.: watdaisy.6431 Posted: Thu Jan 19 10:32:29 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jan-84 02:45:57 EST References: <1198@mit-eddie.UUCP>, <323@hou5g.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 Not only that, but most rapes happen between people who already know each other. I agree that one could act tough and try to show each and every man one knows that one will not take any bullshit. Do you realise what this means? spending your whole life putting on an act of being tough and not letting your defenses down. What kind of a poisonned existence is that? It is bad enough that I have to worry about acting tough whenever I'm out on the street past curfew (around 5pm most of the time here). If I have to act tough and put on a protective shield every time I spend some time alone in a secluded place with a member of the opposite sex, I just won't bother. Men who suggest that we do this don't realise what it really means: a lifetime of paranoia. Most of us women who know something about rape do have some of this paranoia. I for one am very paranoid to the point that I feel very uncomfortable whenever I find myself in a potential rape situation. It is not fun. I have just decided recently to calm myself down, but it is not easy, because the threat is not all in my mind. Maybe you think that is a small trade-off, to be somewhat paranoid so as not to get raped, but you probably don't realise the full implications of this on men. Some of us view every man stranger or not as a potential rapist once in a while. What kind of relationship between the sexes is that? And then men wonder why some women are so aggressive and so defensive in front of men. Your suggestion that we all "act tough" to prevent rape would make things even worse. Most men do not rape, and do not deserve to be assumed potential rapists, but unless rape becomes a less common crime, there is no way this will change. No, no, it is too easy to tell us to act tough. If we do and are still raped, then it will mean that we will not have acted tough enough, won't it, and it will still be our fault (sounds familiar..). No, I just won't buy that. The only solution is for you men out there to stop raping us!