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From: saquigley@watdaisy.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Nothing ever happens to people unless they want it to
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Date: Mon, 23-Jan-84 11:27:10 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 23 11:27:10 1984
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> 	The only solution is for you men out there to stop raping us!
> 
> While I am in no way in favor of the opinion that most of the above
> article was criticising (see Subject:), I have to take exception to the
> line quoted above.
> 
> This sort of overgeneralization purely on the basis of sex is not
> warranted.  Rape is not limited to a man attacking a woman.  Not to
> mention I don't recall ever personally raping anybody and have no plans
> to do so.  Statements such as the one quoted above are sexism
> masquerading as feminism.
> -- 
> John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas
> jsq@ut-sally.ARPA, jsq@ut-sally.UUCP, {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!jsq

You quoted me out of context.  If you read the rest of my article, I was
not saying that most men rape, but that because so many do, women tend to
be suspicious of most of them, something which is not doing men who don't
rape a world of good.  Since the trend is so general - yes there are women
raping men, and the raped men's anguish is as bad or worse as the raped
women's - but the great majority of rapists are men.  As I don't want to
advocate women raping men, the only way to change this view that we have
that rapists are men and that men are potential rapists is for those men to
stop raping.
I am sorry if that sounded like I was attacking the majority of men.  I
admit the wording of this sentence was strong, but I feel very strongly on
this subject as I get very angry at the tought that someone would try to
rape me just because I am a woman, and I get angrier when someone suggests
that if I did end up getting raped, it would be because I didn't really not
want it bad enough.

I don't mind being called sexist.  Like most of us, I carry my baggage of
garbage which includes racist and sexist thoughts.  I don't like it and I
want to get rid of it, but it is not always easy.  I try very hard to be a
feminist and I think feminism is not about women making sexist remarks on
men.  The temptation is there, though and if I succumb to it, let me know
as you did.
				Sophie Quigley