Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!harpo!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat From: wombat@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Rape of the Male - (nf) Message-ID: <5141@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Jan-84 22:37:33 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.5141 Posted: Wed Jan 25 22:37:33 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jan-84 01:39:55 EST Lines: 19 #R:houxu:-29900:uicsl:16400035:000:950 uicsl!wombat Jan 25 15:30:00 1984 Instead of complaining about the "lack of support group and counciling" available for men, go out and do something about it. Women didn't get them magically overnight. They felt a strong need for them (I suppose, I've never been in one) and started them. Until men decide that they want to learn to be less aggressive, and want support groups to help them with their special problems in this period of change, nothing that women do to help create men's groups will do any good. Talk to people at your local YM/WCA or whatever and start your own group. The University Y here sponsors "Communiversity" courses, some of which are essentially support groups for men. If you don't like the way things are, work for what you DO want. Many women who were raped back before there were women's groups weren't much better off than the men you describe; unskilled women trapped with violent husbands had no choice. Wombat ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat