Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watrose.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watrose!kwlalonde From: kwlalonde@watrose.UUCP (Ken Lalonde) Newsgroups: net.women.only Subject: Re: sexist surgery Message-ID: <6411@watrose.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Jan-84 01:58:14 EST Article-I.D.: watrose.6411 Posted: Fri Jan 13 01:58:14 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Jan-84 00:29:59 EST References: <393@abnjh.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 25 To those who brought up the circumcision controversy: While I think that circumcision of any kind is wrong, except for religious purposes, and even then I have doubts, I don't feel circumcision comes under sexist surgery. It is not a procedure done to degrade men. It is usually performed on non-consenting babies and that's a whole other kettle of fish. As to survival: NO, women are not in general having these operations to save lives, many women past menopause are told that the time has come for their hysterectomies and to book the date now. No mention is made of the risk (about 3 deaths per 500 hysterectomies) that goes with it. There is also absolutely NO proof that a lumpectomy is less effective in breast cancer than a radical mastectomy. A radical mastectomy can leave the woman weaker, delaying recovery. In such a case, women are used as guinea pigs. Another, non-surgical example: the very fashionable (for M.D.s) pre-menstrual syndrome. Yes, in some women there is a hormone imbalance, but the idea should be to identify the cause, instead of blasting away with progestin. And creator help the women whose problems are not caused by hormones - no one is looking at alternatives (it doesn't pay). Just like menstrual pain, there are now drugs to help, but no one knows *why* our bodies are so out of kilter... - Madeleine Clin