Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdccs6.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdccs6!ix192 From: ix192@sdccs6.UUCP Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Who has the right over our bodies? Message-ID: <1289@sdccs6.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Mar-84 17:05:05 EST Article-I.D.: sdccs6.1289 Posted: Sun Mar 25 17:05:05 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Mar-84 01:07:43 EST References: <581@ihuxn.UUCP>, <76700004@hp-pcd.UUCP> Organization: Hacker's Haven, U.C. San Diego Lines: 29 From: hp-pcd!harold Mar 21 07:57:00 1984 > Again, I repeat the question "What constitutes being human?". This IS > a fundamental issue in the abortion debates. Why? Simple. *IF* the > fetus is NOT human, then the woman can exercise her right over her own > body without censure by anyone. However, *IF* the fetus *IS* human, > the woman's "right over her own body" *CAN AND SHOULD* be limited by > LAW to protect the human-fetus's right to "life, liberty, etc.". Give me a break! People have their own opinions, but not everyone's opinion is equal in everyone's case! When a woman is trying to get an abortion, there are three main opinions - the law, the woman's, the fetus's. The pro-choicers and pro-lifers are mainly like news reporters, congregating around a personal issue to see if they can use it to their benefit, saving another human life for the good of the world or proving again that choice and freedom will rule forever (slightly exaggerating and typecasting, but it makes a good image). The woman doesn't want the fetus. The fetus (I would assume) doesn't want to die. The law for abortion is still under debate, so I won't mention a standing, but it is important; if it says don't, you don't or you are taking the law into your own hands, the exact thing laws were made to prevent! Back to abortion, let's count the law out for the moment because though it in some states and cases it allows abortion, it's under debate and not very permement. So, You have a woman, pregnant, wanting an abortion. Abortions generally don't kill the mother, so the woman would live if she went through with it. Abortions are generally sucessful, so the fetus would die.