Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Who has the right over our bodies? Message-ID: <3696@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Mar-84 16:47:30 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.3696 Posted: Fri Mar 30 16:47:30 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Mar-84 16:47:30 EST References: <581@ihuxn.UUCP>, <2050@cbscc.UUCP>, <7330@watmath.UUCP>, <3673@utzoo.UUCP>, <7375@watmath.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 42 Action and non-action again. No. Nobody is obligated to raise a child which they do not want. There are always orphanages. If you decide to starve your child to death then you have to make a pretty serious decision. Once the child becomes mobile you will have to cage it, or otherwise it will forage for itself. babies (and fetuses) are in a peculiar position in that they cannot forage for themselves and are therefore dependant more-or-less totally on other human beings. Remember that having a child is a responsibility. In raising it you are agreeing (implicitly or explicitly) to shoulder this responsibility. One of the responsibilities is that you will feed the child. If you do not want that responsibility you can eiter put the child up for adoption or hire someone to do that responsibility. There is no agreement of responsibility between you and the bone marrow needer, just as there is no responsibility between you and anybody else' kids. If I am starving my children then, while you might have a moral duty to feed them you do not have a legal one. You may feel that you have a moral duty to give bone marrow to the bone marrow needer as well, but you are not legally obligated to do so. If the fetus is a human being then it does not make sense to say that your responsibility towards it as anoter human being (such as don't kill it, something which we all have as responsibilites towards other human beings) begins when it is born. These responsibilites are the inalienable rights of human beings and should go to the fetus by virtue of the fact that it is a human being. And until it is possible to demonstrate that the fetus is *not* a human being (which will require knowing what is ``human'', something the philosophers are not in agreement upon) one must assume that it is or run the risk of commiting the atrocity of killing another human being. -- Laura Creighton utzoo!laura "Capitalism is a lot of fun. If you aren't having fun, then you're not doing it right." -- toad terrific