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From: gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Abortion - Men's rights
Message-ID: <1101@proper.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 29-Mar-84 23:08:06 EST
Article-I.D.: proper.1101
Posted: Thu Mar 29 23:08:06 1984
Date-Received: Sun, 1-Apr-84 07:35:17 EST
Organization: Proper UNIX, Oakland, CA
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Keywords: abortion,reproduction,rights,implicit contract,`rent-a-mom'

> From: welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch)

> Sexual intercourse if done of free will contains an implicit contract for
> both parties.  In the case of no pregnancy, the contract becomes null and
> void, but in the case of pregnancy then the contract is that if either
> party wants the fetus then the mother must birth the child ...

I disagree with this entirely.  Men are not obligated to donate sperm
against their will, why should a woman be obligated to bear a child
if only the man wants it?

Your `implicit contract' is arbitrary.  Why doesn't the `implicit
contract' state that its solely the woman's choice?

The woman and the woman alone should have the choice to bear
a child or not.  It would be nice if the father's feelings were
considered, but I do believe women have the right to control their
bodies, including reproductively.

It is one of the unfairnesses of this world that women bear children
and men do not.  It is perhaps unfair that women should have this
choice -- this authority! -- but the alternative is society's
tyrranical control of the individual's body.

> As for the argument of about control over bodies, I argue that,
> 
> 	a.  No body has ever used this argument against the draft,

I do.

> 	b.  No body has ever used this argument against the death penalty,

I do.

> 	c.  No body has absolute control over their body.

`c.' is an empty statement.

If a man desparately wants a child, he should find a woman would wants
to bear it (including `rent-a-moms'), or wait for medical technology
to advance to allow him to bear it.