Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Legal question of anti-abortionists Message-ID: <3714@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 1-Apr-84 18:45:59 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.3714 Posted: Sun Apr 1 18:45:59 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Apr-84 18:45:59 EST References: <813@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 29 Currently we do not prohibit mothers from doing ``anything that would harm their child''. We do prohibit them from killing them, however. Citizenship is a matter which is decided by individual countries. Personally, I would like it if every person who wanted to be a citizen of any country (including the one that he was born in) had to apply for citizenship. This is not in order to reject any native-borners, but so that every citizen would have a real, concrete experience of *asking* to be a citizen. (it is easier to remember that you have responsibilities when you have explicitly asked for them.) I do not think that ``place of birth'' was settled on as a grounds for citizenship (in the countries which practice this -- some don't) because it was automatically assumed that life began there, merely *official* life (ie on paper -- what the bureacrats always want) began there, birth records being a very widespread phenomenon. There is no reason to change this if you like the system. Personally, I would prefer that the citizenship of the child defaults to that of the person (or group) who raised him, with multiple citizenships possible. Why we are at this we could tidy things up so that pregnant Americans abroad don't have to race home to have their kid just in case he or she might want to be President some day. -- Laura Creighton utzoo!laura "Capitalism is a lot of fun. If you aren't having fun, then you're not doing it right." -- toad terrific