Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gatech.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!gatech!owens From: owens@gatech.UUCP (Gerald R. Owens) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: we have cause to be suspicious Message-ID: <5954@gatech.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Apr-84 14:16:52 EST Article-I.D.: gatech.5954 Posted: Wed Apr 11 14:16:52 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Apr-84 07:33:11 EST References: <1294@sdccs6.UUCP>, <47700010@hpfcla.UUCP>, <5953@gatech.UUCP> Organization: Georgia Tech School of ICS, Atlanta Lines: 58 Has anyone bothered to check the cost/benefits of abortion regarding the parties involved??? The woman: possible social embarassment, physical inconvenience, loss of time and money, probable dangers to health and life, desire to avoid the time, work and expense of raising the kid, possible lowering of lifestyle. All are avoided by an abortion. The father: possible social embarassment (although much less than for the woman in this society, sad to say), loss of money to have the child delivered and raised, along with the possible lowering of lifestyle. All are avoided by an abortion. The doctor: No abortion, no fee. The politician: Who me??? Why should I stop it?? Those three people up there can vote. The fetus can't! The Judge: Well, The fetus can't hire a lawyer, obviously. Civil rights violated?? Is it human?? Hmm, a good question. I'll have to ask a few doctors (Now, guess who is consulted. No peeking, only one guess. AWWW!! You got it!! :-) Suggested mapping function: mother,father --> slave owners fetus --> slave doctor --> slave trader politician --> politician Judge --> Supreme Court in deciding the Dred Scott case that slaves were not covered by the Constitution. abortion --> not having slaves. (the analogy is a bit imperfect here) Moral: Too many people are benefitting from abortion, especially in a financial and powerbased way. Although all of them (especially the mother) have a valid concern, one must realize that humankind has had a history of overlooking many facts when money and power are involved. just as in slavery (and in other cases where people have been oppressed), the special interests in the issue had good financial and power hungry reasons for asserting that certain entities were not human or not covered by the laws or not deserving of any USUAL concern that they accorded to others. However, my observation breaks down here for one reason: the slaves could fight and shoot, given the resources, and had the aid of those who the slave owners said "it's none of your business! WE have our rights!". A fetus can't do much more than kick (if it's allowed to develop that far.). Unseen, mute, and can't defend itself, it makes for a perfect victim. As for us pro-life/anti-abortion people, apparently the above are telling us "It's none of your business! WE have our rights!". The question of whether it is human or not is indeed *the* question. However, let us be aware of the outside biases that would influence the answering of the question. In view of the above, we have cause to be suspicious... Gerald Owens Owens@gatech